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Glendora Closer To Preferential Parking Near Garcia Trail

Northern view of Yucca Ridge Road from Leadora Avenue. Photo courtesy of the City of Glendora.
Northern view of Yucca Ridge Road from Leadora Avenue. Photo courtesy of the City of Glendora.
Residents in the area of Sierra Madre Avenue and Yucca Ridge Road have petitioned Glendora officials to curb excessive parking in the area, amounting to a possible preferential parking district.

Glendora's Traffic Safety Committee recently passed a recommendation to the Glendora City Council to approve the implementation of a preferential parking district along the north portion of Sierra Madre from the western city limit to 1300 feet east of Yucca Ridge and Yucca Ridge Road from Hicrest Road to Leadora Avenue.

Residents seek a preferential parking district along the mentioned streets to address a high volume of hikers parking in the area to access Garcia Trail.

The petition satisfied the required two-thirds majority needed to consider a preferential parking district, with 21 of the 27 residents qualifying, according to city documents.

If approved by the City Council, residents would have to incur the costs to implement the preferential parking district, city officials said.

A public hearing will be scheduled sometime in the future, city officials said.
mark Smith January 28, 2014 at 07:41 PM
Any choice of words that are not civil but inflammatory are really not needed on this forum. Intelligent choice of words is a much better method of conveying the facts for all to read.
mark w davis January 28, 2014 at 07:48 PM
Hicrest is a private road, which at the time I and my neighbors signed the petition, were unaware those residents would not be considered in the formula. We/I am not county. We are no less impacted. As for the Fire station, again I live there and have a common border with them. I would know much more than you about where the boundries are. The firestation is in Azusa, and county. The adjoining trail head is in Azusa and was annexed along with the other 600 acres years ago. Hows that for mastication?
Larry S January 28, 2014 at 08:28 PM
Well, since the trail is there and is public, I assume that everyone has a right to use it. I also assume that the state or city has a responsibility to allow those who want to use it to have access. It's pretty cut and dried, really.
mark Smith January 29, 2014 at 01:08 AM
Like I said before, snide comments do not help to resolve this issue before us. Instead we are grappling with what to do about this issue. A good land use lawyer can tie this whole mess up in court for years. Yes Mr. Davis you are in the LA County your address is enough evidence to support this accusation. Maps seem to disprove your position in past postings, how do you explain this? The petition paperwork shows a Davis C. and address that is struck through with the word county inscribed next to it? And of course disapproved to vote, again!
mark Smith January 29, 2014 at 01:30 AM
You were the first one to sign this petition and the first one to be rejected? We have found the correct Mark C. Davis listed and appointed on the petition list, OOPs it has a line drawn through your name and address, does that mean you have been disqualified and or disapproved from further comments? Question as a non person, what do you have to say for yourself? Back to the original question poised, where do the hikers park? Please remember before you answer, a land use lawyer can and will tie this up in court for years. how many years you got to spare for this issue?
Virgil January 29, 2014 at 10:18 AM
Mark S. just what axe do you have to grind against Mr. Davis. He does live in Glendora and even if he didn't his neighborhood is impacted along with the rest. Just where do you live? Probably not remotely close to the trailhead is my guess.....you have taken this discussion into an attack.
mark Smith January 29, 2014 at 10:40 AM
Sometimes extracting the facts verse fiction and emotion takes time and patients from all involved. Virgil it's always nice to hear from you too! Back to the subject at hand, remember always look behind the curtain at the little man pulling the strings. Rosedale development in the Azusa is picking up speed, the new County Fire station might start very soon, as the pace of new homes being built on once empty pads increases. I seem to recall a similar case in California where the entrance and access to a long used hiking trail was stymied by a local government, it all worked it's self out in court with the city losing and parking and access was restored. Has anyone asked what the Sierra Club has to say about this issue?
Bill C. January 29, 2014 at 12:29 PM
Reading what Mark Smith writes here is no different than listening to him speak at a council meeting. Do you have any dog in this fight Mr. Smith, nope, you live far from this area don't you? The point is Mr. Davis obviously does as the issue is one that impacts his life on a daily basis. Your take Mr. Smith is the city is helping county residents so they can make money on parking tickets? Always look behind the curtain at the little man pulling the strings? Yeah Mr. Smith, I know in your world city councils never attempt to help citizens in need unless theirs some pay off for them, in my world they do things at times to help because it's simply the right thing to do.
mark Smith January 29, 2014 at 12:45 PM
All that matters are the facts are laid out for all to see and judge, rather than a former methods employed. I hope Bill C. can contribute more to this discussion in the future, hope his judgments can be put to better use also.
mark w davis January 29, 2014 at 01:02 PM
Mark, I am City of Glendora, if you do any further research you will see. County addresses are 5 numbers, Glendora are 4. look at the application. Also, get the facts correct, it is Mark W not C. Furthermore, I am nothing but a concerned citizen for my neighborhood. Same as you my friend. I speak at council meetings and hold them accountable on as many issues as my time permits. I have been a vocal advocate for the rights of Glendora citizens for years over the developers in the Rosedale develoment. You should be thanking me, rather than vilifying me. There is no curtain, if there was, you'd only see the concerned citizens of Glendora in the affected area around the trail. There were no other options; that would at least eliviate the issue in my lifetime, or my childrens.
Bill C. January 29, 2014 at 01:27 PM
No Mr. Smith, methods in fact do count and yours, as usual, imply facts not in evidence. You saw what I wrote and chose not to respond to it but to respond with something meaningless instead, I am not surprised. The last thing you ever need to do is attempt to school me or anyone else on an issue you're not on top of. Appears on this one Mr. Davis has pointed out that you're lacking.
mark Smith January 29, 2014 at 04:06 PM
All that matters are the facts they have laid out for all to see and judge, rather than a former methods employed. I hope Bill C. and Mark Davis can contribute more to this discussion in the future, more of these unbiased judgments can be put to better use also. More facts rather than ego chest pounding.
mark Smith January 29, 2014 at 04:22 PM
Mark Davis, please tell us again why your name has been marked out on the petition form? Did you do something wrong or what? Didn't you read the instructions before you circulated the petition in the first place, little tell tale signs like this add up to great big piles of trouble later?
CK January 29, 2014 at 04:23 PM
does anyone know how to remove yourself from getting updates on these elderly men crying all? Sounds like you guys are really enjoying your retirement!
mark w davis January 29, 2014 at 04:41 PM
Wow, you're a piece of work Mr Smith. I told you how it went. If you need further clarification as to how they dealt with their oversight, you'll have to ask the city. By the way, there were no instructions, written or otherwise. The FACTS, as you like to term them, surrounding the petition signatures were laid out plainly and simply. I guess that is too complex for you. You seem determined to find some conspriracy here. There is none. It's simply the citizens of a community exercising their rights. I have not cried or whined. Rest assured I will however fight vigouresly when falsehoods are presented about me with ingnorance. You seem more intent on winning some inane argument about where I live. You are the one who has no sight of the issue at hand. And when aptly proven to be uninformed, throw out dribble like the last post. I have stayed on factual target the whole time Sir. Done. Over.
mark Smith January 29, 2014 at 06:12 PM
The body of the message should tell the read all they need to know, Yes there are instructions, if you remember to ask for them, and reading them is a must. So please spare the readers your embarrassing harassment of those asking simple questions. Please tell us again why your name has been marked out on the petition form? Did you do something wrong or what? Didn't you read the instructions before you circulated the petition in the first place, little tell tale signs like this add up to great big piles of trouble later? Temper, temper.
Bill C. January 29, 2014 at 07:02 PM
Mr. Davis already answered you Mr. Smith, check the 16th comment. Do you have to have the answer repeated or pointed out to you due to your lack of comprehension or are you being obstinate for some other reason? Showing yourself to be obnoxious isn't helping whatever your cause might be today. Since I'm the helpful type I'll remind you Mr. Davis pointed out he wasn't aware that because he lived on a private street he couldn't sign the petition. There, now you're all caught up with the rest of us and you're welcome.
mark Smith January 29, 2014 at 08:51 PM
I'm sure there is a good reason Bill C. is trying to be a traffic cop for this topic. If there is any good reason put it on the head of a pin. Seeing is believing when it comes to truth and honesty, I have paperwork in hand that refutes all those naysayers etc. Please learn to keep it civil, Mark Davis signed the petition in two locations, one as the facilitator who was the go between the city of Glendora and the resident's and as a signatory to the petition. So would you think as a lead person you would be well versed in all the reasons and regulations connected to this effort?
Bill C. January 29, 2014 at 09:18 PM
I like other residents get tired of your constant prattle Mr. Smith. You are a rude and ignorant person in my opinion, your comments show just that. Nobody I know is ever impressed by your witless remarks, our conversation is over.
mark Smith January 29, 2014 at 11:01 PM
It's so nice to know that Bill C. is so well versed in all the reasons and regulations connected to this effort? A great big thanks to Bill, but there are better sources of moral and ethical guidance available now days.
mark Smith January 29, 2014 at 11:14 PM
Suggestions for Bill C. and Mark D. 1.)Keep it Clean. Please avoid obscene, vulgar, lewd, racist or sexually-oriented language. 2.) Don't Threaten or Abuse. Threats of harming another person will not be tolerated. AND PLEASE TURN OFF CAPS LOCK. 3.) Be Truthful. Don't knowingly lie about anyone or anything. 4.) Be Nice. No racism, sexism or any sort of -ism that is degrading to another person. 5.) Be Proactive. Use the 'Report' link on each comment to let us know of abusive posts. 6.) Share with Us. We'd love to hear eyewitness accounts, the history behind an article.
Virgil January 29, 2014 at 11:33 PM
Mark S. you use the term traffic cop like it is a bad thing. Some of the best cops I know protect and serve from two wheels. A suggestion to Mark Davis. It came to me about your street being private. Check with the fine folks at Jan's towing, probably start with Glen Purbaugh, and ask about their towing service and if they would post your street and if current law allows towing violators after posting. That would be something to consider as a last resort.
mark Smith January 29, 2014 at 11:55 PM
P.S. Virgil - all those streets your trying to wind up are illegal in width now days, so parking a skate board is a towable offense, please get your facts straight and understand the current laws. Virgil - 1.)Keep it Clean. Please avoid obscene, vulgar, lewd, racist or sexually-oriented language. 2.) Don't Threaten or Abuse. Threats of harming another person will not be tolerated. AND PLEASE TURN OFF CAPS LOCK. 3.) Be Truthful. Don't knowingly lie about anyone or anything. 4.) Be Nice. No racism, sexism or any sort of -ism that is degrading to another person. 5.) Be Proactive. Use the 'Report' link on each comment to let us know of abusive posts. 6.) Share with Us. We'd love to hear eyewitness accounts, the history behind an article.
mark Smith January 30, 2014 at 01:52 PM
Hold the line on the trees and sidewalks: http://www.ci.glendora.ca.us/home/showdocument?id=2974
mark Smith January 30, 2014 at 09:18 PM
More good news, in applying for preferential parking district the contact person has to read four pages of instructions before he or she takes the forms around for signatures. The joy's reading and comprehension.
mark Smith February 15, 2014 at 12:30 AM
With the Garcia Trail now closed for what appears to at least a 4 - 5 years stint, serious consideration is being brought forth from both the cities of Azusa and Glendora and private property owners to block the entrance and paths from sierra Madre to the summit with chain link fencing materials. While this plan is being kicked around it appears the reason and justification for preferential parking district maybe a mute point.
mark Smith February 15, 2014 at 10:15 AM
The Garcia Trail was used for access to the top of the ridge by the U.S. Forest Service prior to the construction of the Glendora Ridge Fire Road. Later, it was turned over to the Los Angeles County Fire Department, which used the trail for a department communications line coming down to the fire station from the top of the ridge, which is no longer in use today and since has been taken down.
mark Smith February 15, 2014 at 10:17 AM
The most westerly north-south trail is known as Garcia, or Mexican Canyon. This trial starts at the Los Angeles County Fire number 97, and continues to the top of the ridge. The U.S. Forest Service was the prime user of this trail for fire watch and access to the ridge and land above.
mark Smith February 19, 2014 at 03:43 PM
In a outreach to residents near the entrance of Colby hiking trail and beyond, another issue parking permits for residents residing inside the exclusion street parking zone. Restricted parking time periods and days will have to be posted on metal signs attached to steel pipes through out the restricted parking area, after this can be agreed to by resident's and Glendora city hall. What hasn't been fully explained to all who signed a petition, only two parking passes will be given to each house address with in the parking restricted zone, you may request a maximum of two more per house address and pay a fee of $5.00 per each extra pass. Further paperwork will be required for all the parking passes assigned to each address.
mark Smith April 03, 2014 at 12:48 AM
Once more changes are taking place at the entrance of the Garcia Trail, ever since the January 2014 Colby Fire the entire trail is off limits and closed. The city of Glendora followed through with it's threat to restrict parking any where near the entrance to the Garcia Trail entrance, why it's closed and maybe for several years? Why waste the Glendora staff time and money to purchase signs and materials needed to install these out of step signs along with wasting employees time installing them? This appears to be another wasted time and money effort on the city mangers part to look like he is doing something? How many time does one reinvent a round wheel?

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