UPDATE: Fatal Crash Reported on Angeles Crest Highway

SigAlert issued for unknown duration, officials say.

UPDATE, 9:18 p.m.: According to the CHP, one victim has been identified as Patrick Ramirez, 45, of San Dimas. The deceased, a 25-year-old male, has not been identified, pending notification of next of kin.

According to a CHP press release, the unidentified rider was operating a 2000 Kawasaki ZR-7, Ramirez a 2000 Yamaha R6.

The unidentified rider was traveling westbound at an unknown speed while Ramirez was traveling eastbound at 40 miles per hour when, for reasons unknown, the unidentified rider lost control of their motorcycle, was ejected and struck the second motorcycle.

Ramirez was thrown from his motorcycle and collided with the road, sustaining moderate injuries.

Alcohol is not believed to be a factor in the crash.

Previously: One person was injured and one was killed in a motorcycle crash on Angeles Crest Highway Sunday afternoon.

The crash was reported around 1:40 p.m. near mile marker 63.50, according to Tatiana Sauquillo of the California Highway Patrol. What communities reside south of the crash were not disclosed, but scanner reports from Los Angeles County Fire divulged the crash happened before a series of tunnels, which would place the incident possibly above the communities of Azusa and Glendora, before Highway 39.

About five minutes after the call came in, Montrose Search and Rescue team members arrived, Sheriff's Reserve Chief Mike Leum told Patch.

Leum and his SAR partner were the first at the scene, along with Sheriff's Air 5.

One victim was administered CPR and pronounced dead at the scene. Another was transported to Huntington Memorial Hospital, Leum said. 

At 2:38 p.m., CHP issue a Sig Alert for an unknown duration and eastbound and westbound traffic was being turned around.

How many other people may be involved, as well as the circumstances of the crash remain unknown at this time.

Check back with Patch for updates as we get them.

Note: A previous version of this article stated that Los Angeles County Fire arrived at the scene, however rescue crews stated this is incorrect. Patch regrets this error. 

Natalie April 30, 2012 at 02:31 PM
I'm very sad about the loss of life of an innocent rider, but I wish the bikers would stop riding the Angeles Crest Highway, not only for their own safety, but because their machines, many with illegal mufflers, destroy the peace of the mountains for miles around, especially when they ride in large groups. As a change from meeting at Newcomb's, try walking the forest trails, listening to the birdsong and the wind in the trees - if you can. Then maybe you too will be annoyed by the noise pollution. Harleys are the worst.
Greg Hiscott April 30, 2012 at 02:49 PM
Stupid is going on the Angeles Crest Highway while you know these dangerous riders are up there. If you want to ride your bikes fast, then go to a private track. Many riders are endangering the public and making the ANF less accessible to the public. In a response to their narcissistic call, some of these idiots even post videos of their insane antics on youtube !!
Greg Hiscott April 30, 2012 at 02:58 PM
Two wrongs never make a right! People used to get jobs in the LA Basin and buy homes in the Antelope Valley because the homes were cheap. They made the daily trek across the ANF and back. Now that home prices in the basin have sunk, there really is no reason to continue this mode of operation. The road itself is dangerous. The use of the road should be minimized, NOT MAXIMIZED !! This idea seems so obvious to me and others. Why not to the people who have died or have experienced close calls? The constitution says that all men are created equally but I don't think all men have the same tolerance for risk or the same intelligence.
Ian April 30, 2012 at 03:40 PM
Oh my, oh my, oh my...... we've just got to close Angeles Crest Highway! How many more people must die before we do something about this? While we're at it, we need to close Azusa Canyon Road, Glendora Mountain Road, and mayhaps even Mt Baldy Road. Remember, it's about our children, and it's about time! Goodness gracious!
Gayle M. Montgomery April 30, 2012 at 03:41 PM
My now 78-year old uncle road his bike up on Angeles Crest as a teen and had to have his brain washed to get the gravel out when he ate the cement. Fortunately, he did not die. He was also deafer than a doorknob after that. The Angeles Crest can be exhilarating but is and has always been dangerous. I love to see a good bike and a group of recreational, responsible riders. But there is that other group of riders, most often young, who are exhilarated, reckless, and dangerous. They dart in and out of traffic on the freeway, at exhorbitant speeds and zoom between cars in people's blind spots. They are playing Russian Roulette. In Florida, the car I was a guest in broke down, and it had to be towed. Some cyclist zipped by us at a ridiculous speed. Next thing I knew, our tow truck driver unavoidably drove over a downed bike. I was sick for days. Last year, in a span of six days on Oahu, there were as many motorcycle fatalities. A bike can be great, but do not leave common sense behind when you ride. I saw one of those splatted riders on the way to Haunama Bay. I thought I was going to be ill.
Robby April 30, 2012 at 04:24 PM
Yeah. This. It's hard to find a place where you can't hear the engines. Try hiking at dusk or when there's a full moon - traffic goes waaaay down at night and you can actually hear the wind in tree branches, and bird and animal sounds.
JJ April 30, 2012 at 04:25 PM
I work and tide the crest. YES there are irresponsible riders AND irresponsible drivers as well. Yes bikes cross double yellows on purpose to pass slow vehicles who don't use turn outs. That's where most riders get mad because they dont have any common road courtesy. Drivers drive 25 on a straight away looking at the sight, which is all good, but pull off the roadway to do so. I see far many more drivers crossing the double yellow, whether it be on purpose or accident, than i see motorcycle riders crossing over. The road is only as safe as you as a driver make it. If a faster vehicle comes up behing you, move over or use a turnout. And i agree, the Harleys are the worst noise polluters. RIP to all the riders/drivers who have died on the crest. I've seen far too many of both.
Wayne Burnes April 30, 2012 at 06:06 PM
Ignorance abounds. Instead of complaining on a blog, why don't you 'concerned citizens' get off your collective asses and get involved. It's a public road. It isn't going to be 'closed'. Get invovled and find solutions. Educate riders and drivers. Find alternatives. It will take your time and your effort to find reasonable solutions to this problem. It will take your disire and willingness to give of yourself to help your community. It's lame to sit and complain. LAME. Look at yourself. Are you really concerned are do you just need another reason to complain? Do something about it or STFU.
fanci baker April 30, 2012 at 06:19 PM
Hi Steph, this is Storm's wife. I am so very sorry for your loss. My thoughts are with your friend's family and the two men with him yesterday. My thoughts are also with the other accident victim involved yesterday.
Greg Hiscott April 30, 2012 at 07:38 PM
Ah yes Mr. Burnes but when this is presented to our assemblymembers and caltrans officials they will see that the vast majority of the community is against the current policy and then, it will be changed. Posting to this blog is an efficient and civil method for making our opinions known. The motosports enthusiasts killing themselves and endangering the public are piling on the proof that something must be done. They are the ones that are going to ruin it for all the motorcyclists. In fact, it is up to you bikers because you know these guys and only you can convince them to go elsewhere or knock it off. They will NEVER listen to Joe the motorist driving 25 with his family in the back. They only laugh at Joe motorists telling them they should slow down.
Brian April 30, 2012 at 07:40 PM
I've been riding motorcycles on this highway since the 70's - and you have to expect and look out for large and small rocks in the road!!!! All it takes is running over a small rock in a tight turn to upset the bike.
Gayle M. Montgomery April 30, 2012 at 08:11 PM
Mr. Burns, may I ask what part of educating the public and being involved you do? It's my perception that addressing it first as a community concern is a way of being proactive. When you learn of the concerns of the many, some will be speared into action. But, since you think we're all dumb for commenting and, effectively doing nothing, what are you doing in this regard?
Gayle M. Montgomery April 30, 2012 at 08:16 PM
I do have to say one other thing. Beyond my concern for those injured and those who survive the decedent, without excusing poor drivers, there has been a rash of dare devil bikers on the freeway in itty bitty bikes (not the Hogs and Rockets, but the little Japanese versions), zipping in and out of traffic on the 210. They zip up, make noise, and startle drivers. They make exceedingly stupid maneuvers, usually as a tag team. I see it in cars, too. But people who have cars have a bit better chance of coming out unscathed. You kiss the ground on a bike, you're peeling skin, blood, brains, and innards if you survive. A little more caution seems to be sorely in order.
Ralph Long April 30, 2012 at 10:06 PM
I ride my motorcycle (with quiet mufflers) and drive my sports car on The ACH, GMR and all the fantastic roads in our area. I also hike in the mountains and fly airplanes. I KNOW all these things are dangerous, as do all people who ride, drive sports cars,hike and fly. The ability to do all these things without having to go very far from home is one of the reasons I love this area. These are the things that make this area so FABULOUS!! These are some of the reasons this area has exploded in size for the past 50 years and the reasons this area is so desirous. To limit access to these things would be to destroy some of the great character of this area. There are plenty of places in this country that do not have these "dangerous" things. If one does not desire to live near these things, one does not have to. But don't force those of us who love this area access what we love. To all those Nannys out there who want to think for us and make things safer for "our own good": thanks for your concern, but we know what we are getting our selves into when we turn the key. It is not for the faint of heart, but for some people it is what keeps our hearts going.
Steve Gerow May 01, 2012 at 03:02 AM
Ralph Long - exactly correct!
Tahi310 May 01, 2012 at 06:06 AM
R.i.p young one !!! It was my friends bro n i hate to see his family suffer :( .... This sucks !!! Plz drive safe to everyone
John May 01, 2012 at 07:21 PM
My thoughts exactly Caroline!!! Not the place for it.
Steph May 01, 2012 at 07:39 PM
Fanci Baker once again Thankyou very much to you and your husband I'm sure he's family is grateful as well! My husband my son and I were barely getting to the restaurant where the motorcycles stop at when we found out what had happened we were going up there to meet up with them and see them ride but unfortunately we got there to hear bad news.. The other guys are very emotionally hurt as well as the family my prayers to them and I hope the other motorcyclist is doing well!
John May 01, 2012 at 07:41 PM
I am not for closing the roads, because that is just absurd, however; what if the road is closed to four wheeled traffic at certain times during the day. You put a USFS ranger at the bottom collecting ten bucks from each rider to have an ambulance standing by. Riders can get it all out of their system while others are not around to crash into, and it will make a tiny dent in our state's debt problem! To those who say someone should not have to pay to have an ambulance or fire dept standing by since they already do in their property taxes- The vast majority of these riders are not even from LA county. They come from far and wide to ride our road and themselves tax our CHP, Fire Dept., and Ambulance resources caring for injured riders and taking tediously detailed accident reports. So that means that the people who flock here are not paying for the services they receive, WE residents are. Which is fine with me if there were only isolated incidents, but when people come here from far away knowing there is a great chance of getting hurt I draw the line. Others who do pay for those services may have to wait several minutes longer to get help they need. Those minutes can mean the most when it comes to heart attacks and strokes. Whew...there my 2 cents.
Greg Hiscott May 01, 2012 at 07:41 PM
dudes, it is a free country UNTIL you do something that makes it less free for somebody else. Putting a member of the public in danger on the mountain roads only because you want to get your Yah yahs is taking away from the freedom of others. look at gun control. same deal and we all know where gun control is going in California.
carlos alf. May 05, 2012 at 11:07 PM
Hi to everyone. all this is not for foolish or courage,all this is for person like you and me when they take the bikes the riders don't think if they will have a accident ,the only thing they wants is pass a nice moment.I was a friend ,brother of the fallen rider, thank you all, for your commentaries good or bad, concern about the road and no the life,it is right all what you say .but last sunday was him tomorrow "who will" this is the only time I comment ..Have a blessing day and My lord Jesus bless all yours.
Alexander Moon May 06, 2012 at 05:19 PM
Carlos, I'm so sorry for your loss. We all need to be safe out there, car or motorcycle, Angeles Crest or riding around your neighborhood. Please ride safe.
PeteP May 11, 2012 at 10:32 PM
There are NO solutions needed - because there is NO problem folks. Motorcycle riders enjoy riding the Angeles Crest because of the many curves, the baeutiful scenery, and the challenge of the ride. It's up to each rider to judge their own limits and stay within them. If you don't - then you can die. That's the inherent risk with motorcycle riding. All of us who are riders understand and accept that risk. The accident mentioned in the news happened because one rider panicked when he hit a decreasing-radius curve and jammed his rear brake pedal. That cuased his rear wheel to lock up, the bike skidded, and both he & the bike slid across the road into the guardrail. Unfortunately, by sheer bad luck he just happened to take out a rider going in the opposite direction. My prayers to the families involved. But the rest of you should understand that Hwy 2 is a primary motorcycle riding road nad is seen as a valuable resource by the motorcycle community. I don't go around telling people not to hike, just because some lost soul gets attacked by a bear or a cougar. So please don't tell the motorcycle community to avoid their chosen path in life. Live and let live! Pete, Redondo Beach
Miguel Herwing May 16, 2012 at 10:11 PM
Well said Pete. I used to ride Angeles crest Hwy and Malibu Cnyns for many years and used to see all kinds of accidents. I used to know the fallen rider. He was my wife's nephew. I just wished he would've said or asked me about riding canyons. I'm not sure how much experience he had on a sport bike, let alone riding a sport bike in the canyons. I keep asking the family as to how the accident happened and I've heard multiple stories. I am not really sure if the other riders that were with him that day had any experience. I hope this can be a lesson to all the unexperienced riders out there. Keep the rubber side down and the shiny side up !!! WSMC #704
Nico May 16, 2012 at 10:26 PM
I don't care if motorcyclists crash, that is their life, but I don't want to get injured when a biker flies across the road onto my windshield or causes me to swerve into another car. Getting eaten by a mountain lion doesn't endanger anyone else. Driving a motorcycle certainly can. Drive a bicycle, and do whatever you want, but a motorcycle is a potentially deadly instrument.
Wayne Burnes May 17, 2012 at 03:46 AM
And your car is not a "potentially deadly instrument." The Crest is dangerous, especially on weekends. Deal with it or don't go there, simple as that.
Joe Bernard May 25, 2012 at 03:37 AM
Wayne, your comments are indicative of a selfish individual. I drive ACH often, daily at times for weeks on end. I am either in one of my sports cars, 900hp twin turbo, or 650hp sedan, primarily my Chrysler beater with only 280hp. Have seen it all. Accidents, fatalities, stupid driving, etc. However, ACH is NOT a speedway. It is not a raceway. it is a beautiful road to enjoy a nice drive and enjoy the scenery. Everyone, whether in a little Chevy or top notch race car has a responsibility to others on the road regardless if it is in the canyon or not. It is much more than accepting the 'dangers' of the road. Many families drive through the canyon and are not interested in accepting the 'risks' or 'dangers' just because they happen to be on a road. How would you feel if you went head on into my lifted 4x4 F350 dually? Inherent risks? Just one of those things? Thing is, not a week goes by without some sort of stupidity on the road, and ACH is more prone to it as so many have a sense of arrogance and indestructibility when in their car or on a bike.
Wayne Burnes May 25, 2012 at 03:51 AM
Joe, I've been riding the Crest since the early seventies. I roadrace motorcycles and ride at 180 mph often. I do it on the track. I don't race up and down the Hwy 2. Most of the guys speeding on bikes up there don't even know what fast is. I used to race up and down the Crest decades ago but, it was a different place then. I've seen a lot over the last 40 years in the Angeles Crest. It's a dangerous place. If you don't like it, don't go there.
William Kauffman July 30, 2012 at 01:31 AM
I am the Las Vegas Resident who reported the Crash at Mile Marker 63.50. I was the first vehicle at the scene and the first one thru to report it. Two groups of Motor cycles passed us as we traveled east bound, and only shortly there after we cam upon the scene. I was glad to see that all the motorcyclist were together at the scene. I am sorry I had to see this, and have thought about it all the way home.
Mary Lenore Kowalewski January 11, 2014 at 02:14 AM
Manuel Morales died at the scene 1/5/2014 The police gave his wife the impression that he got up from the crash and was hit by a car. If you know what really happened, I'm sure she would like to know as would I. He was my friend for over 40 years and died doing what he truly loved. I'll miss you BROTHER!


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